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Reckoning's avatar

I think that right now there aren’t a lot of people out there mentoring young men, such as siblings, cousins, family friends, coaches… so I think a lot of young men are missing the boat in terms of relationships (as are women, I’m sure).

At least the internet offers more education and possibilities if someone’s immediate circle is lacking. So that’s a small beacon of hope.

A few years ago, an Australian Catholic female journalist caused a small fuss by writing articles complaining that Catholic men aren’t worldly wise enough. She still has a blog. No sign of marriage, although I suppose she could be keeping it private.

https://www.catholicweekly.com.au/for-want-of-a-lot-of-good-men/

I also recall that a decade ago the young Catholic women on Facebook were posting “Catholic Ryan Gosling” memes, although he isn’t Catholic. So women can have unrealistic standards, too.

I think that a young man who is shy and not very forward will seem like weak sauce to women today. Sometimes couples need an outside push, but those influences don’t exist today.

I don’t think it’s reasonable or natural to push young people into a very wide world and expect them to find mates with little guidance or support, but that’s the world we live in today.

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Yarrow's avatar

It's still possible in this day and age. Have done it, can verify.

But.

-You have to stop caring about social status.*

-You have to STFU about it. Need-to-know only.

Once you get past that:

-No sex without commitment remains (and may even be *more* effective now, for those courageous enough to deploy it) the most devastatingly effective dating strategy ever invented. You will get fewer dates, and have fewer boyfriends. And you are far more likely to meet and marry an eligible man.

-How does that work? Well, you're single most of the time. Get cozy with that, because it's KEY. If you're shacked up with Mr. Right-Now who will waste 5 years of your youth and fertility and never marry you, guess what? For that whole five years, Mr. Right will not even approach you. Because *you're taken* and good men don't poach another man's woman.

-If you can't bear the psychological pressure of being single, you need to work on that before you even *think* about being married. A romantic partner will not solve your personal insecurities, and expecting a relationship to do that will doom the relationship. That's not what a husband is *for*. Get your sh*t together first.

-If you're not having sex, you don't need to be on the Pill... and we all know now that artificial hormones affect who you're attracted to. You do *not* want to make lifelong decisions about a mate while under the influence of HBC. If you've been on it since adolescence, you don't even know who you are, sexually, or what you find attractive, and you are in for a world of hurt if you marry someone in that condition. Someday, you're going to quit HBC to have kids or try to get your health back, wake up in an unfamiliar body, and possibly find that your partner isn't nearly as sexy as you thought... but plenty of other men are way more attractive. That's trouble.

-Keeping your pants on is the single most brutally efficient sorting mechanism in the dating world, for weeding out sh***y entitled men. They will drop you like a hot rock as soon as you're unwilling to get physical: and that's a GOOD thing.

-You don't date for fun and status. "Having a boyfriend" is not the goal. You date to find a spouse. That means as soon as a potential partner turns out to have any dealbreaker trait, he's out. He's not your type. Let go and put a hard stop to it. If you know what you're looking for that means most men are out before they ever ask, and you just say "no thank you, I'm not interested."

No, this strategy doesn't work for everyone. If you're all about looks and status, well... you get what you deserve, IMO. But if the top of your spousal priorities list is: religious, respectful, reliable, good dad, intelligent, hardworking, virtuous, free of addictions, no baggage... the strategy is *magnificent*.

I was that picky. Married the first guy I ever kissed: nobody else ever got that close. 15 years and 3 kids later: no regrets.

*Look down at your shoes. If they are pointy and uncomfortable, you care too much about status.

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