When I was in High School, my High School science teacher had an entire unit on the risk of human populations overrunning the resources of the planet, arguing that human reproduction was on the brink of causing a massive ecological disaster.
if you look at the fertility rates of western countries of the last 70 years, you see that among all of them there was a significant drop with the introduction of the anti-baby-pill during the 60s, depending on when it came to market in the respective country. A.k.a. contraceptive. The rate dropped to roughly 2 per female, with swings to the upside and downside over the decades. In my opinion, this empirical observation cancels out many of the mentioned reasons. Most of the extreme femi-derangement stuff has been poisoning minds from the 2000s on, so my guess is we will just now witness another significant drop, as females born in the beginning of the 80s are now drying up and exiting child bearing age. This was the first cohort's life choices heavily influenced by the diverse perversions of cultural liberal-marxism, be it feminism, careerism, green agenda etc.
Add on top the already visible effect of the lethal injections on fertility and my guess is we will see rates decline another 50% towards 1 woman per child.
you can validate this yourself by looking up the birth rates of various countries on that globohomo page called GOOOGLE.
It's 1.6 per woman now in First World counttries, & falling fast. 1.0 per woman by the 2030s, which would halve the overall population. But it's accelerating now too. Yes, the only solution is establishing tightly-knit small communities away from cities etc. After 2 generations a handful of such small communities will emerge as far healthier & 'sustainable'. So it'll be a full century for this toxic current dystopia to play out & a slow return to occur. It shocks me to realize gender relations & 'family' are socially learned behaviors, & can be lost. This Human Utopia Experiment is having a predictable outcome.
let's hope that it does not take 100 years for us to return to sanity.
I do not think that family is socially learned bevavior. Rather, propaganda and indoctrination are able to cloud the mind. People are manipulated into going against nature and their own best interest. The question is just for how long this can be maintained. Eventually, nature will mean revert with a vengeance. That is when all the dry egg old hag crazy femi witches will realize they have been living THE lie all the way. I guess in one way or another, there is always some form of selection process going on, haha
If you knock down Chesterton’s Fence then Darwin's goats will eat all your seed grain. In other words, the cultures with these pathologies will be selected out and replaced by those that don't have them.
I think the primary reason (other than the pill) is the atomisation caused by being relatively rich.
We aren't forced into interdependent extended family and local area networks anymore because we can afford to pay for everything we need. No need to borrow, barter, help each other out. So in the nuclear family child rearing isn't experienced as a part of normal life, because by definition the only time it happened is when you were very young as you and your siblings were raised by your parents.
Modern young adults are in a situation where young children haven't ever been a part of their life, they spend their whole time segregated into their peer group so it seems like a huge leap into the unknown to have kids. I mean, we have parenting books. What sort of dumb shit social structure do we have that we need to learn that from a book? It's almost as sure a sign of retardation as sex ed classes.
I think you could add a section on the neutering of religion and its effects on fertility. The feminization of western religion along with its overwhelming desire to be ever so inclusive has rendered it useless in creating heathy family structures. In stead of being a driving force for a biblical worldview of family development, the church merely reflects the cuture discussed in this article.
A much bigger impediment to family formation is real estate prices. NIMBYs gonna nimby, which means all the money in the economy flows to the landlord. Who wants to have a kid when then live with four roommates?
I think it's interesting that many of the people who categorized over-fecundity as a systemic crisis turn around and look at low birth rates as essentially an issue of personal choice. I think part of that dynamic comes from feminists who don't want women to be burdened with the duty of bearing children because they want more and better by women into the upper echelons of finance and politics and the media.
This is a priority which only affects a very small number of people and which lacks serious social implications... whereas the fertility crisis is quickly becoming the biggest issue of our time.
Have you read Erich Fromm's The Art of Loving? He wrote in the 1950s, but even then he was able to describe the "market economy" approach to dating which we see today, but much amplified since then.
Well if it isn't karma knocking at the door, worries about overpopulation led to underpopulation and I wonder who's going to take care of all the old people, that chose not to create families. Illegal immigrants don't seem to want to work nursing homes with a positive attitude.
Seriously? We are looking at massive environmental collapse from global warming, massive employment collapse from automation, AI, massive trade collapse as the world sorts into blocs run by china vs America, and you think the solution is more kids? For what? What world are they inheriting? What future do they have?
Good illustration of some of the main drivers of collapsing fertility rates - credulous belief in doomsday propaganda and passive fatalistic acceptance of the status quo. Who is served by both attitudes? The rich and powerful who run the world.
The main problem isn't the quantity people that will crash, but the quality. Intelligent people, women in particular, are being selected against, while welfare leeches and religious freaks are being heavily selected for.
*** I didn't know until I finished this that you were Indian
No environmental Collapse. No massive unemployment from AI. Whether the world bifurcates into pro China/pro US is debatable. But competition is good. China, however, is cratering. So the two economic superpowers are very unlikely. You have been ‘demoralized’ by Marxists. They have talked you into eliminating yourself from the gene pool.
Don’t try to be. Just be. I have seen many many different situations going back to the early 1950s. I have NEVER seen such a time of opportunity for young people. You have it made in the shade. But stop voting in numbskulls! They are the only problem.
I am seeing the "tight knit" communities in our local church. The Latin Mass group and the very traditional Ordinariate group are full of young people and families with lots and lots of kids. We keep growing every week because more and more people see the power of the Holy Spirit working. It's contagious and self fulfilling; quite the opposite of the grey haired Novus Ordo masses which repel young people. I went to the Cathedral some months back and it was full of foreigners and old people and very few children (maybe a handful in the entire building); the contrast could not have been more sharp.
Honestly, I listen to a podcast from an economist that says a population decline isn't that bad. But, importing 3rd world illegal immigrants with no skills and no vetting is absolutely bad. Boomers and unprepared gen X'ers are going to find bad nursing homes or none at all. MAID, might become very popular.
It seems that most problems nowadays aren't really that big a deal, but the measures we take in response make them really bad. COVID is a good example. It was a big deal only because we overreacted, locked people in their homes, and forced untested vaccines on them.
There's another possibility, a more basic ecological one - r/K selection theory. In many species, there are two basic behaviours: have a lot of children and neglect them, letting the strongest survive, and have fewer children and care closely for them. Crocodiles and elephants, if you will.
But species adapt their reproductive strategies to local conditions and available resources.
Before the Industrial revolution, some 40-50% of children didn't make it to 15 years old. And so for the population to continue, it was necessary to have at least 4 children. Factor in that there would be some males dying in their late teens or early 20s by violence (whether personal or state) and some females would be infertile, and it was safer to go to 6 or so, though 8 is generally the most pregnancies you can get from a woman physiologically. And indeed these are the numbers we see before industrialisation in every country.
With industrialisation, you get first sanitation, which drops the under-15 death rate from 40-50% to 20-25%. Centralised states are arguably also part of this, as they start stopping young men from murdering each-other, instead sending them off to murder foreign men.
Then you get vaccination and antibiotics, and this drops the under-15 death rate to under 5%. Other advances in trauma care etc bring it down to under 1% (in the US it's 0.85% for boys and 0.7% for girls).
So now, strictly on a "how many of my children will survive and reproduce?" basis, you've gone from needing to have 6-8 births to having 3 births.
The industrialisation which allowed the sanitation, vaccination and antibiotics also brought many of the other factors you mention, such as urbanisation and social liberalism. So now the mentality has become to have even fewer children but invest more in them.
If you have 6 children, even if one of them is out with the others one day and falls in the river, and another goes to prison, well there are still 4 more who might make Dad proud in his old age. But if you have 1 or 2 children and one dies, then it completely destroys your life and your marriage and you never recover - it's natural, then, to become a helicopter parent. If you have 6, at least one of them simply by sheer chance will do well maritally and financially; if you have 1 or 2, you want to make sure of it, so you will hover over them and make sure they do their homework and violin practice and get them mathematics tutors and all the rest.
We survive in a world filled with miracles and contradictions. Look at Elon Musk, he promotes an increase in public birthrate, but he just fired 10 % of his workforce. How do you think those working families feel about Tesla's corporate layoffs right now? The future economy is a beast. Inflation threatens that the 3 people left on the planet will have to pay the automated bank everything they own. That's why some are opting out of parenthood. I hear crisis projectionists like this and then I look at the numbers of orphans and wonder if they counted the bodies in prisons, the welfare system and the numbers of foster care children. There is some merit to this "problem", but I don't believe they truly believe in escalation of parenthood until they start adopting so-called unwanted children. So much of it is empty duty free luxury beliefs held by ultra-rich men .
if you look at the fertility rates of western countries of the last 70 years, you see that among all of them there was a significant drop with the introduction of the anti-baby-pill during the 60s, depending on when it came to market in the respective country. A.k.a. contraceptive. The rate dropped to roughly 2 per female, with swings to the upside and downside over the decades. In my opinion, this empirical observation cancels out many of the mentioned reasons. Most of the extreme femi-derangement stuff has been poisoning minds from the 2000s on, so my guess is we will just now witness another significant drop, as females born in the beginning of the 80s are now drying up and exiting child bearing age. This was the first cohort's life choices heavily influenced by the diverse perversions of cultural liberal-marxism, be it feminism, careerism, green agenda etc.
Add on top the already visible effect of the lethal injections on fertility and my guess is we will see rates decline another 50% towards 1 woman per child.
you can validate this yourself by looking up the birth rates of various countries on that globohomo page called GOOOGLE.
It's 1.6 per woman now in First World counttries, & falling fast. 1.0 per woman by the 2030s, which would halve the overall population. But it's accelerating now too. Yes, the only solution is establishing tightly-knit small communities away from cities etc. After 2 generations a handful of such small communities will emerge as far healthier & 'sustainable'. So it'll be a full century for this toxic current dystopia to play out & a slow return to occur. It shocks me to realize gender relations & 'family' are socially learned behaviors, & can be lost. This Human Utopia Experiment is having a predictable outcome.
let's hope that it does not take 100 years for us to return to sanity.
I do not think that family is socially learned bevavior. Rather, propaganda and indoctrination are able to cloud the mind. People are manipulated into going against nature and their own best interest. The question is just for how long this can be maintained. Eventually, nature will mean revert with a vengeance. That is when all the dry egg old hag crazy femi witches will realize they have been living THE lie all the way. I guess in one way or another, there is always some form of selection process going on, haha
If you knock down Chesterton’s Fence then Darwin's goats will eat all your seed grain. In other words, the cultures with these pathologies will be selected out and replaced by those that don't have them.
Powerful and necessary piece.
I think the primary reason (other than the pill) is the atomisation caused by being relatively rich.
We aren't forced into interdependent extended family and local area networks anymore because we can afford to pay for everything we need. No need to borrow, barter, help each other out. So in the nuclear family child rearing isn't experienced as a part of normal life, because by definition the only time it happened is when you were very young as you and your siblings were raised by your parents.
Modern young adults are in a situation where young children haven't ever been a part of their life, they spend their whole time segregated into their peer group so it seems like a huge leap into the unknown to have kids. I mean, we have parenting books. What sort of dumb shit social structure do we have that we need to learn that from a book? It's almost as sure a sign of retardation as sex ed classes.
I think you could add a section on the neutering of religion and its effects on fertility. The feminization of western religion along with its overwhelming desire to be ever so inclusive has rendered it useless in creating heathy family structures. In stead of being a driving force for a biblical worldview of family development, the church merely reflects the cuture discussed in this article.
A much bigger impediment to family formation is real estate prices. NIMBYs gonna nimby, which means all the money in the economy flows to the landlord. Who wants to have a kid when then live with four roommates?
This is a great piece that would benefit much from a proofreader, it should be read more widely but it is needlessly riddled with mistakes.
I think it's interesting that many of the people who categorized over-fecundity as a systemic crisis turn around and look at low birth rates as essentially an issue of personal choice. I think part of that dynamic comes from feminists who don't want women to be burdened with the duty of bearing children because they want more and better by women into the upper echelons of finance and politics and the media.
This is a priority which only affects a very small number of people and which lacks serious social implications... whereas the fertility crisis is quickly becoming the biggest issue of our time.
How did "dating sucks so much that people are going to be robosexual in a few decades" not make this list?
Have you read Erich Fromm's The Art of Loving? He wrote in the 1950s, but even then he was able to describe the "market economy" approach to dating which we see today, but much amplified since then.
Well if it isn't karma knocking at the door, worries about overpopulation led to underpopulation and I wonder who's going to take care of all the old people, that chose not to create families. Illegal immigrants don't seem to want to work nursing homes with a positive attitude.
Seriously? We are looking at massive environmental collapse from global warming, massive employment collapse from automation, AI, massive trade collapse as the world sorts into blocs run by china vs America, and you think the solution is more kids? For what? What world are they inheriting? What future do they have?
8 billion is more than enough.
Good illustration of some of the main drivers of collapsing fertility rates - credulous belief in doomsday propaganda and passive fatalistic acceptance of the status quo. Who is served by both attitudes? The rich and powerful who run the world.
More White people are a net positive, more streetshitters not so. We do not over-breed our resources.
The main problem isn't the quantity people that will crash, but the quality. Intelligent people, women in particular, are being selected against, while welfare leeches and religious freaks are being heavily selected for.
*** I didn't know until I finished this that you were Indian
No environmental Collapse. No massive unemployment from AI. Whether the world bifurcates into pro China/pro US is debatable. But competition is good. China, however, is cratering. So the two economic superpowers are very unlikely. You have been ‘demoralized’ by Marxists. They have talked you into eliminating yourself from the gene pool.
I hope you’re right. I try to be optimistic about the future. Thanks.
Don’t try to be. Just be. I have seen many many different situations going back to the early 1950s. I have NEVER seen such a time of opportunity for young people. You have it made in the shade. But stop voting in numbskulls! They are the only problem.
I am seeing the "tight knit" communities in our local church. The Latin Mass group and the very traditional Ordinariate group are full of young people and families with lots and lots of kids. We keep growing every week because more and more people see the power of the Holy Spirit working. It's contagious and self fulfilling; quite the opposite of the grey haired Novus Ordo masses which repel young people. I went to the Cathedral some months back and it was full of foreigners and old people and very few children (maybe a handful in the entire building); the contrast could not have been more sharp.
Honestly, I listen to a podcast from an economist that says a population decline isn't that bad. But, importing 3rd world illegal immigrants with no skills and no vetting is absolutely bad. Boomers and unprepared gen X'ers are going to find bad nursing homes or none at all. MAID, might become very popular.
It seems that most problems nowadays aren't really that big a deal, but the measures we take in response make them really bad. COVID is a good example. It was a big deal only because we overreacted, locked people in their homes, and forced untested vaccines on them.
A trad wife is good, but not enough. Tribe up.
There's another possibility, a more basic ecological one - r/K selection theory. In many species, there are two basic behaviours: have a lot of children and neglect them, letting the strongest survive, and have fewer children and care closely for them. Crocodiles and elephants, if you will.
But species adapt their reproductive strategies to local conditions and available resources.
Before the Industrial revolution, some 40-50% of children didn't make it to 15 years old. And so for the population to continue, it was necessary to have at least 4 children. Factor in that there would be some males dying in their late teens or early 20s by violence (whether personal or state) and some females would be infertile, and it was safer to go to 6 or so, though 8 is generally the most pregnancies you can get from a woman physiologically. And indeed these are the numbers we see before industrialisation in every country.
With industrialisation, you get first sanitation, which drops the under-15 death rate from 40-50% to 20-25%. Centralised states are arguably also part of this, as they start stopping young men from murdering each-other, instead sending them off to murder foreign men.
Then you get vaccination and antibiotics, and this drops the under-15 death rate to under 5%. Other advances in trauma care etc bring it down to under 1% (in the US it's 0.85% for boys and 0.7% for girls).
So now, strictly on a "how many of my children will survive and reproduce?" basis, you've gone from needing to have 6-8 births to having 3 births.
The industrialisation which allowed the sanitation, vaccination and antibiotics also brought many of the other factors you mention, such as urbanisation and social liberalism. So now the mentality has become to have even fewer children but invest more in them.
If you have 6 children, even if one of them is out with the others one day and falls in the river, and another goes to prison, well there are still 4 more who might make Dad proud in his old age. But if you have 1 or 2 children and one dies, then it completely destroys your life and your marriage and you never recover - it's natural, then, to become a helicopter parent. If you have 6, at least one of them simply by sheer chance will do well maritally and financially; if you have 1 or 2, you want to make sure of it, so you will hover over them and make sure they do their homework and violin practice and get them mathematics tutors and all the rest.
The diatribe against competition and striving that has been going on for forty years I think might be the biggest single factor reducing testosterone.
We survive in a world filled with miracles and contradictions. Look at Elon Musk, he promotes an increase in public birthrate, but he just fired 10 % of his workforce. How do you think those working families feel about Tesla's corporate layoffs right now? The future economy is a beast. Inflation threatens that the 3 people left on the planet will have to pay the automated bank everything they own. That's why some are opting out of parenthood. I hear crisis projectionists like this and then I look at the numbers of orphans and wonder if they counted the bodies in prisons, the welfare system and the numbers of foster care children. There is some merit to this "problem", but I don't believe they truly believe in escalation of parenthood until they start adopting so-called unwanted children. So much of it is empty duty free luxury beliefs held by ultra-rich men .
Spot on. The “fertility crisis” is a luxury belief of rich men who only worry that they might run out of servants.
Yes. And not even "men" in the 19th century sense of the word where it meant "humans". Literally, rich women aren't even like this lol.